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Post by Mr. Daniel on Apr 29, 2013 15:03:54 GMT -5
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Post by petercolosimo on Apr 30, 2013 8:49:22 GMT -5
I do not believe that sports are sexist at all. I believe that fans want to see the best and be entertained the most, and that is why men's sports get way more attention than women's. For example, men's basketball is way quicker and more electrifying. The players are some of the best athletes in the world and are exciting to watch. Women's basketball players are talented as well, but their athletic ability most of the time does not match that of their male counterparts. Sports are not an issue of sexism, fans just want to see the best of the best compete against each other.
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Post by elizabethg on Apr 30, 2013 9:15:23 GMT -5
I agree with Peter in the fact that ya most male sports are more exciting than women's sports for many reasons but I don't think sexism in sports comes down to just which gender we watch over the other. Women are extremely degraded when it comes to sports. For example, the one way to tell male athletes that they aren't playing well is to tell them they are playing like a female. And also when females play well they are told they are playing like males. In sports men have always be perceived as better not just because watching male sports is more exciting but because they are males playing the sport and "males are better than females." Also female sports reporters and journalists are always given a much harder time when they make comments against a male athlete or team. They are always given so much more negative feedback such as males telling them "your a woman you don't know what your talking about." This also applies to most women who watch and talk about sports
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Post by sorchaprice on Apr 30, 2013 14:47:47 GMT -5
I agree with both Peter and Liz that sports are not sexist. Yes I can see why people may think that they are but I do not believe it is intentional. As Liz and the article say, "she plays like a man.” Or other stuff regarding the notion thay men are superior is purely nonintentional, people don't realize what they are saying. Because it is scientifically true that males have the superior athletic ability ("On average, the most elite male athletes do in fact jump higher, run faster, and exert more physical power than their elite female equivalents."); not all do but some. Also, women's ports are not as widely publicized as make sports so that can be a factor in the fact that fans are more attracted to male athletics. But nonetheless, sports are not sexist, they are just a different playing field that should not even be compared.
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Post by margwalker06 on Apr 30, 2013 20:01:30 GMT -5
I agree with Elizabeth in saying that women are degraded when it comes to sports. I don't think female athletes are given nearly as much credit as they deserve in comparison to men. However, I think that Peter is right by saying that male sports get more attention because it is more entertaining. Society first adapted to only having mens sports around so I think that it is more of a tradition to pay more attention to male athletes. Like the article said, in many parts of the country "the local high school football team is loved as deeply and rooted for as fiercely as its big time college or pro equivalent." People aren't rooting for the high school team because they are better, but because its their culture. Therefore, people are not necessarily rooting for men because they are better, but because thats what they are used to, and hopefully female sports will eventually adapt to that tradition.
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Post by meganrux on Apr 30, 2013 20:13:44 GMT -5
Liz brings up a good point of, for guys, it is an insult to say, " You play like a girl" but a compliment for a girl to be told she "plays like a boy." This, although seems like sexism, as Margaret points out and defends well, I believe is not. It is merely a comparison of which sex is better at what sports. The example in the article, basketball is a great example of an exciting men's sport. For this reason, it is much more exciting to watch the NBA than the WNBA. The roles can also be reversed. Take the US National soccer teams. In the Olympics this past summer, no one cared about how the US Men's team would do because they are nowhere near as exciting or as talented as the Women's team. Is this sexism? I think it isn't, but instead a yearning for excitement; something one wouldn't be able to find in the WNBA or in the US Men's Olympic soccer team.
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Post by eryks on May 5, 2013 10:36:10 GMT -5
I agree with both Elizabeth and Sorcha, in which they both bring up valid points in saying that male and female sports are on two separate playing fields due to the athletic capability of athletes based on their sex. The next thing that I wanted to point out in the article was the idea that the journalist believes that female athletes need to prove themselves by competing against men in order to gain the recognition they need, for me, I think that's irrelevant to any woman trying to prove themselves in anything... sports, academics, etc. In essence, sports are not sexist, but they do give a negative connotation towards women within the sports world when they are being compared to male athletes.
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Post by hannahmichalek14 on May 5, 2013 15:04:57 GMT -5
I do, infact, believe that sports are sexiest. The article i read had alot of major points which i found interesting. One was what eryks mentiond and it was how females that are athletes need to prove themselves by competing agaisnt men to get the credit they deserve. Alot of people think this is wrong but in the end its the truth. Woman have to compete against guys in alot of things to show them they are just as good. Woman can have a serious problem with living up to guys because society depicts girls so much lower. What i hear in my everyday life about sports with men and woman is that woman have it alot more easier. Men dont realize that woman have to work just as hard as them to get where they are in the sport that they do. Sorcha makes a great point of they static of how men do run faster, jump higher, and have more power than females but this is not the case in all people. Just with that static people look towards sports with men to be better to watch because they are more interesting with their skills compared to woman. I do not find this true and i think people should stop being so sexist to girl sports becuase there games are just as intersting, or maybe even better.
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Post by elizabethg on May 5, 2013 15:24:13 GMT -5
I agree with hannah that sports are intact sexist. I have found that not only is playing sports sexist but talking about it is sexist. Males have come to believe that sports are their territory and not women. They think women are out of place when they talk about or play sports. They just think they are better than women in all aspects of sports which is completely false. There are so many dedicated woman athletes out there that know just as much if not more about sports than some males. And sure athletics were started by males and originally just played by males, but we are in an entirely different century now and its time for men to start treating woman with more respect when it comes to sports.
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Post by ellez on May 5, 2013 17:46:44 GMT -5
A lot of people have said men are inherently faster, stronger, and more equipped to compete physically than woman just because of the way they are born. Men's and women's bodys are built differently. Due to this difference, if men and women were not compared to each other in sports, would sports still be sexist?
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Post by jovaneemejia on May 5, 2013 18:49:59 GMT -5
i would agree with hannahm that sports are sexist. For example if a group of male teens wanted to play a pick up game of football and a girl wanted to join in, then the guys would not want to play or pick the girl because she is a girl. They would think she cannot handle rough place due to her capabilties as a girl. In the article is said that Mark Cuban wanted to see if Brittany Griner would want to play in the NBA, but most fans and critics stated that no woman ever, even the best, could hang with the guys because she is a girl and cannot be as good as a man. If this isnt sexist then i dont know what is.
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Post by meganrux on May 5, 2013 19:50:01 GMT -5
Elizabeth brings up another great point. Guys seem to get very territorial when it comes to anything sports related. I still stand by my claim about playing sports and that some are Ritter than others, but sports-talk-wise, yeah, it is very sexist. Attempting to be a part of a sports conversation with guys as a girl is a lost cause- its dubbed a 'guy thing' which leaves it off limits to the ladies.
To answer Elle's question, no. If there is no comparison being made, then there is no issue of sexism. Sexism tends to arise when one compares the WNBA to the NBA, baseball to softball, the Red Stars to the Fire, etc. Eliminating the comparison would in turn eliminate the sexism. It would go from a situation of comparing different types of apples to comparing apples to oranges.
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Post by williamreckamp on May 5, 2013 21:20:58 GMT -5
I disagree with Jovanee, a group of males don't want to have a girl on their because the girl doesn't have the same athletic ability of the males. Choosing a female would put that team at a higher risk of losing. As said in the article, "On average, the most elite male athletes do in fact jump higher, run faster, and exert more physical power than their elite female equivalents."It is a scientific fact that men are more athletic than women and this why people prefer to watch the NBA rather than the WNBA. Mark Cuban invited Brittany Grinner because he thinks that she can compete in a competitive male environment.
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Post by daveonneb on May 5, 2013 21:21:03 GMT -5
I agree with Megan about the comparison aspect of the subject. Is there really a way to say that sports are sexist just because two leagues are separate you can't say that just because it's men and women they both have their separate leagues for a reason.
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Post by williamreckamp on May 5, 2013 21:21:18 GMT -5
I disagree with Jovanee, a group of males don't want to have a girl on their because the girl doesn't have the same athletic ability of the males. Choosing a female would put that team at a higher risk of losing. As said in the article, "On average, the most elite male athletes do in fact jump higher, run faster, and exert more physical power than their elite female equivalents."It is a scientific fact that men are more athletic than women and this why people prefer to watch the NBA rather than the WNBA. Mark Cuban invited Brittany Grinner because he thinks that she can compete in a competitive male environment.
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