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Post by Mr. Daniel on Apr 29, 2013 8:57:57 GMT -5
How discriminatory do you think US society is today? You can talk about racism, sexism, or any other kind of discrimination in your answer.
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Post by aniathomas on May 1, 2013 22:45:38 GMT -5
Now a days our society is still very discriminated in all different ways and forms. For example racism is seen among African Americans and whites like in the video, where the whites get better opportunities and just have more wealth comparing to African Americans, in housing and amount of money they have. Also Whites, are dominating and happen to live in a lot better neighborhoods than Africans. Even though Racism ended a long time ago, spacial racism still occurs especially in Chicago, where communities live among themselves isolated. The freedom and ability for a person to live where ever they want does not exist. But not only is racism seen around, also sexism, woman are treated mostly as an object in ads and advertisements, where man have the power over them. In many commercials like perfume commercials its always the woman being an sex object being half naked. Sexism and Racism is found everywhere in our society today which is unjust and unfair.
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Post by Mr. Daniel on May 2, 2013 12:35:04 GMT -5
Even though Racism ended a long time ago,. Ania, what do you mean by this? Couldn't we point to examples of racism today?
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Post by daniellev on May 5, 2013 15:57:00 GMT -5
I agree with Ania. We may not realize all the discrimination in the US society today because we are around it constantly and are used to it because we grew up with it. Women, African Americans, and all minorities do not have the same rights as white men do. Women cannot get some jobs the want because of sexism and people think men would be greater in the jobs then women. Whites do have the most opportunities based on institutional racism and the white privilege though. Individual Racism occurs a lot throughout US society which is why there are segregated areas and living isolated. Whites are generally the most wealthy and get better jobs because US society does have a lot of discrimination occurring.
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Post by felicityfitz on May 5, 2013 18:43:56 GMT -5
I think that some sorts of discrimination are downplayed, such as the way our population is divided according to race. Yet there are still moments of satisfaction when we recognize that our society is moving forward and becoming more open minded. Today I was walking down the street and I noticed how openly gay my neighborhood is. You see a gay couple holding hands every 3 minutes. I think this is wonderful!!... But I think it's important to remember that this is not the case everywhere you go.
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Post by ccastro on May 5, 2013 22:18:33 GMT -5
I agree with all that there is a lot of discrimination in the US today and we just don't see it as much because we are so used to it now. There are many people of different races that are unable to get a job just because of their race or they may get a job that pays very little. However it is noticeable how many neigborhoods and cities are segregated such as Chicago for example. It is one of the most segregated cities in the US. Also whites seem to be more wealthy than other races and get better jobs so overall the US society does show discrimination.
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Post by daniellev on May 6, 2013 18:31:09 GMT -5
Castro brings up a good point how Chicago is the most segregated city in the US. There are so many different neighborhoods in it and they all have a different feeling because you can tell there is segregation. Especially in the North Shore, which is very segregated, there are mostly whites who are wealthy showing that people are not able to live wherever they want depending on their race or wealth. Also since more white men have jobs they get better housing because they make more money. There are factors leading to the segregation in neighborhoods and wealth but discrimination still continues in US society and has been an issue for a long time now
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Post by aniathomas on May 6, 2013 18:43:32 GMT -5
Mr Daniels, with "racism ending a long time ago" i meant that in law, due to the Separate but Equal supreme case court, racism is illegal, and should not occur, everyone has the right to be treated equally. But indirect segregation between people occurs like i mentioned above indirectly and directly. Like Felicity mentioned that our state of Illinois is even segregated with gay people, that is still a form of discrimination, because they are discriminated against because of their own sexual prefrance which proves that discrimination, is still around, also how ccastro mentioned the working ability and whites getting payed more, or how danielllev says that people preferably whites have better jobs and housing. But discrimination can occur even between politics like political parties, yet the most noticed discrimination occurs between races and religions. The issue with woman vs. man and gays and straight people is more ignored, and not considered as discrimination.
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Post by dmelson on May 6, 2013 18:59:26 GMT -5
I agree with Ania because even though racism by slavery and sexism by voting rights were abolished years ago, doesnt mean that it still is not seen in society. An example of sexism and racism that is still very applicable to today's society is the idea that men and whites have an automatic leg up or an "invisible knapsack of benifits" that women and minorities do not have. The benifits in this knapsack give whites and males a leg up in everything. People do not notice it as much in today's society because first most people are trained not to notice, and second because most people want to believe in a society where people are judged purely on merit. Unfortunately, this "invisible knapsack" refuses a pure meritocracy in society.
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Post by betelihmk on May 6, 2013 19:45:49 GMT -5
Amenrica,the society we live in today is very diverse its impossible to say that racism doesn't exist however its drastically improved. We don't have a law as Ania perfectly mentioned that says this certain group of people are not supposed do or not do certain things. We see schools accepting students who are qualifying for their curiclum no matter where they are from... in this case people might talk about how we have a segregated or not diverse areas in this state. I think the fact that again I said how amarica is the mother land for all different kinds of cultures, people feel more comfortable to live next to someone who also speaks the same language as them and practice the same culture In order to do so they have to move to the society where they best see themselves being fit and that's why we see one group of people living in a certain area.
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Post by kristennoto on May 6, 2013 22:51:00 GMT -5
I agree with Betelihm. America is a very diverse country. Every person is given equal rights. Even though every person is given the right to live where ever they choose, people tend to stick together. It is not done on purpose but it happens a lot. It is easily seen in Chicago neighborhoods. It is sometimes an issue though. For example, some kids grow up never exposed to other races or cultures. If a child is never exposed to other races and cultures it can be harder for them in the real world when they become older.
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Post by georgef on May 6, 2013 23:33:11 GMT -5
I disagree with Betelihm about colleges but agree with her on other points. Despite the fact that some schools are starting to evaluate students "race-blind", it has been a growing problem throughout the U.S. From 2004, multiracial, african-americans, and latino's acceptance rate was 4% higher than the national average. In 2012, these races acceptance rate was 9%. This shows that race has been a growing factor when it comes to the admission process. I agree with the points that America is a diverse country with equal rights. People simply choose to be in the environment they with to be in. I also see many people posting about how women have a disadvantage in salaries and job opportunities. In my opinion, this is an old opinion that has been changing with the modern age. Many fields of study are actually rigorously searching for women to join their ranks. An example is engineering. Engineering, historically, has been a male dominated field. However, these past couple of years, women have been offered more benefits and higher salaries than men just to go into engineering. The same thing applies with colleges. Women who want to major in male-dominated courses will have an easier time getting in than males.
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Post by ccastro on May 7, 2013 13:49:42 GMT -5
I agree that everyone does choose to go to environment where they are most comfortable in. Like I said before, that is why Chicago is pretty segregated since in each part of town there are different types of race that feel more comfortable around each other. So not everyone gets discriminated, some just choose to be segregated since they don't want to be in an uncomfortable area where they may not be accepted.
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